East vs West- Secret of Desh Kaal Patra

East vs West- Secret of Desh Kaal Patra

There are times when Jargons are taught to each Jyotish student when we all start our journey, and we also repeat the same jargon from time to time, but there comes a day after many years of practice, observations and divine interventions when we are truly able to understand some essence of the sutra.

One such sutra is to use “Desh Kaal Patra” and sometimes i wonder do we really know Jyotish as even basics of it, or is it only me as mand-mati who has not understood depth of such dictums, I am writing my observations and experiences based on several charts what Desh, kaal, Patra means.

The moment you will start to live, many people be unhappy with you as the world continuously tells you how you should live and to make sure you follow the rules. You are a free spirit, and this is not liked by anyone who is bound by rules. People will always have ideas about what is best for them, but deep down, it is what they think is best for them if they behave in a certain manner.

Saturn is a planet of restriction, humiliation, rules, sorrow and this a how masses are controlled- As Mel Gibson said- “No one is more powerful than a person who has been humiliated in public and still survived.” (He has same combination in chart that is why same time in 1995 when he was getting Oscar- he was also accused of many other things.)

If in life you ever get attacked by humiliation, rules or judged for something you have done for your own happiness, set yourself free from such people; more you will be clear to people, the happier you will become.

Jupiter -Saturn dasa was running when he got Oscar as well as Humiliation – “Ironically- Since its a Saturn dasa”, Saturn was ruling both the 9th and 8th houses and gave a results of both. Mahadasa lord Jupiter is 10th lord and 7th lord and it has exchange houses with 3rd lord of creativity Sun, making it extremely strong but Sun being placed in 7th house, Problems from female was to occur in this dasa.

Let us look at world from the point of  view of Vastu, The Vastu of this whole universe so magical that it has never failed once, Japan is the land of rising Sun -EAST and this is why for these natives in Japan are to follow strict orders, stay in discipline and timing is the most important for their culture, weather is reaching office on time or running trains and transports on time while you will be surprised to know Japan is a shame driven society since for someone who is living in a prominent place of Sun, getting humiliated is not acceptable that is why it is used as a most powerful weapon.

Look exact opposite of Japan in the west the land of setting Sun is Norway but you can take the entire west zone their society is developed on a different culture where things are acceptable even if you do something wrong, you will have therapies, phycologist and will talk about feelings rather than someone shaming you, There is acceptability for bad grades to sexual choices one will make in life and this is true quality of Saturn to accept things and make space for everyone, for example every drug addict in Norway is paid by government, Job is provided and offer several solutions, Even prisons are well kept and this is why some western countries are shutting down jails as there are not enough prisoners. These two are extreme ends and have a clearcut energy but imagine someone in between with a mixed energy- Countries with mixed energy are always interesting- The world is ruled by people with clear energies as they are clear in their goals- look for countries in between and you will find clear cut troubles and the biggest example of them all is Middle east – Which has energy of Shukra (SE) – Look between Japan and Norway and you will find Siberia and their conflicts.

One secret in this global world you should take in to account is where the person is living and what dasa is he running- Imagine a person is living in Bengaluru which is IT capital of India and has a malefic placed Rahu in their chart – The dasa of Rahu is going to be extremely troublesome for the native, as now beyond chart something which is working over and above everything is Desh and this has more weightage than anything else.

Next blog we will discuss Kaal, one of the courses where we talked about karmic nature of planets and stories related to wisdom and how to overcome was Happiness course- which was Predictive part -2 – The main aim of that course to make students realize on how to live guilt free life, Go through that course to understand the deeper meaning of such sutras.

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44 thoughts on “East vs West- Secret of Desh Kaal Patra”

  1. But someone said..if native have good 4th house than any place will be good for native..is it true???

    1. Neelam NEELAM

      It’s never something like always good when it comes to planets nd their placement. Good 4th house means native is too much addicted to its comfort zone he will never going to take steps out of his birth place or house so their are chances that he wouldn’t get what a strugglers can

  2. Sarita Jain Agrawal

    Thanks for sharing such a deep knowledge which we can’t find anywhere you are really a gem for us 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

    1. Dr.Sanjeev Galagali

      Anyone can observe that a district called Kodagu in Karnataka, has given highest number of military generals to indian army. In each house one person belongs to army in this district. Gujarat gives highest number of Baniyas to world, UP famous for underworld dons, so on…. Vastu of that place has its own effect on our behavior.

    2. You gather gems from the sky and share with us. You are an instrument of God. Rare Soul came to re-establish the Vedic Astrology in this age of Kali 🚩🚩🚩. Dandavat Pranam to You Deepanshu Sir 🙏🙏🙏

      1. Kavita Chawla

        Wonder ful knowledge and nicely explained about desh .Kal etc. Sir Jupiter mhdasha and mangal anter daha guru is in Lagan with rahu and lord of 3rd and 6th house mangal is 2nd and 6th house lord placed in 7th in Aries it will not give good results even marrige is not given 10.6.94 time3.50 p.m.rohtak I can not understand please explain

  3. Sarita Agarwal

    Astrology itself has very depth knowledge including all the subjects like Geography ancient history physics as well.Thank you so much Sir for providing such a wonderful insights of Astrology 🙏🙏

    1. Shreevathsa

      One question, which direction does region between east of Japan and west of Norway be part of ? I assumed west would be west coast of America.

  4. Thank you so much for enlightening us and giving us the way to indulge in the concept of jyotish and forget yourself in the energy of universe 🙏

  5. Thanks sir for this please make a video only on India desh kaal Patra and as citizens what should be happening in life of Indian citizens

  6. Desh, kaali paatra is most confusing concept for me. It’s always great to have deepanshuji experience who throw a good light on this most untouched concept.
    1 Desh whether it is psychology or medical studies both give this as a one of the main tool, why and how different cultures, places condition and surrounding around anyone give major impact on personal choice, thoughts and way of living. There is very thin line between concept of right and wrong deed.
    Still few rules always exist
    One of them is Peace
    Everyone need it, has to be comfortable.
    2. Kaali time is great teacher. Sanatan dharma realize it hance give most stress on it. With time everything is going to change.
    To my surprise I realize even in same people are living in different time zone and different era.
    Again the concept of base line apply here too
    Whatever the kaali is when it come on Survival only rule is to love yourself is must.
    Whoever you are, have only control on yourself. So how you can be better person is only constant everything will change
    This apply in all zones
    3. Patra I don’t understand it at all.
    Zero knowledge, try to understand a lot but finally give up.
    And then come Deepanshu sir vedio on astrology
    Hopefully will try to understand who is Patra and who is not.
    Till now still in journey…

  7. Thanks sir . I am having pisces saturn (9th house )dasa and rahu andar dasa at Bangalore. Pretty bad 😕

  8. Today only I was thinking about the impact of place which we live and here came your blog post.

  9. Aakriti Dhawan

    Thank you for this post! Your insights on life are both soothing and enlightening.

  10. Harsh Prajapati

    Can’t wait to do review Major cities of India this detail analysis of vastu.
    Very clear and in-depth knowledge just like Jupiter guve higher level wisdom.😊

  11. Seemma Choudhary

    Thank you so much Sir for this article. Looking forward to the next part on Kaal. So grateful for your insights and teachings. 🌿🙏🌿

  12. Monika Parnami

    Thank u so much for sharin🙏
    Can u tell us more in detail about which planets rules which areas india💜

    1. Sourabh shrivtastav

      Namashkar sir, such a well explained blog it was.
      I am a cancer ascendant and currently my jupiter mahadasha is running. I moved to Mumbai When my Jupiter mahadasha started in 2012 Though things were not that great career wise but my health was good.. ever since I have moved to Raipur chattisgarh post lockdown my health has taken a tol and I am constantly visting doctors for one reason or another. Does it has something to do with Desh Kal Patra concept

  13. Jyoti Aggarwal

    Thank you sir
    I do not know why, whenever I want any questions’ answer I got through your teaching.
    I am blessed to get a get guru like you
    Thanks

  14. The very reason Japan is like that is mainly due to Trauma inflicted upon the common Japanese folk post WW2. Particularly the Children. During American annexation, countless kids died(reason varied) and their dead bodies got manhandled a lot. Now American policymakers desired to crush the “Fighting Spirit” in Japanese minds. So they made a specific clause and the result is that today people frown over “Violence”. But you’ll still see countless “Street Brawls”, “Yakuza Gangs” and High-schoolers particularly men go through the period of violence during his schooling. Government know that it’s harming the common public but still they allow it. Why? I don’t know.

  15. Namaste Sir. After Panchang course, the phrase got elongated to ‘Desh Kaal Patra Panchang’.
    Now it makes total sense that Japan has a rich culture of royal martial arts and philosophers. I’m specially in gratitude towards the Samurai Saint Miyamoto Musashi and his work “Dokkodo” or “The Way to Go Forth Alone”. Every time I have sought refuge in his strength, his principles have shown me the way like a blessing. Thank you.

  16. Thank you for sharing this unique and valuable article. This is amazing 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  17. NEERU SINGH

    Gratitude 🙏 Deepanshu sir, you write on the topics which are beyond our thoughts. Thank you for sharing such rare knowledge.

  18. Air in the last example if person has malefic rahu and surrounds (hence activates) rahu would it always be malefic result? Can it uplift the rahu, bein surrounded by it ?
    How would a malefic planet be uplifted then? Thank you

  19. Rishabh Virmani

    Really Great Blog it was my first reading of your blogs sir

    Secondly sir how can I book appointment with you to meet you

  20. Usha sapkota

    Nepal lagna is cancer nobody like to work and perform own responsibility but talk about rights

    One observation one lady got job in 2075 and file the case on supreme court for amendend of company bylaws regarding rights to apply job
    She win but company bylaws get cancel and hiring of 30 people after 2075 are not valid but still with company

    Lady get three times accident hardly survive
    Her daughter come back home by leaving mbbs scholarship
    Son doesnot want to work after complete bachelor in engineering

  21. Nice article sir, but according to this calculation in countries like Zimbabwe, Tanzania etc comes in SE direction but these countries are not resourceful but Western countries are resource ful.

  22. Great blog Sir, been following you for over a year. But I have a question, how do you view Germans as they are known for being on time and people don’t like you if you do not stick to time commitments and reject you for the same reason. It is in the western region.

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